Is Jesus God?

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     yes2truth 
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    I have not said they are one I said they are united or in unity, totally like minded and yet individual but they are number one for there is none above them. The Scriptures have spoken not me for I only boast in The Lord and The Truth.

    I am not into starting the trinity lie Rome has already done that, but I not into the monotheistic lie either.

    #18942
     NickHassan 
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    Hi y2t,
    Thank you. Was the Son always in unity with God? Not in being as such, except that the Spirit of God indwelled the Son of God. I believe that unity was expressed in Phil 2.5-6 by his decision not to chellenge the Father for equality but choosing instead to submit and obey. He emptied himself and came as the servant, living as we do till infilled with the Spirit at his baptism and beginning the Work of God on earth in the name of the Father.

    #18943
     NickHassan 
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    Hi y2t,
    The son of God had his own will. He said so in Jn 6.38 and when he was in the Garden
    “not my will but thine be done”
    His submission was a constant daily thing that the Father could use his golden vessel to do His work.

    #18944
     kenrch 
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    Doesn't this sum it up.
    1Co 11:3 But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.

    #18945
     NickHassan 
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    Hi k,
    Yes Christ is the mediator the intercessory and the advocate between us and God. The wonderful gracious Son of God.

    #18946
     liljon 
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    God is neither duel or The Father Alone.
    John 20:28 2 cor 3:17

    #18947
     NickHassan 
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    Hi liljon,
    Jesus said the Father was the one the Jews called God.[Jn 8.54] Do you not agree with him?

    #18948
     david 
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    Are there any people out there who think that Satan is God?–2 Cor 4:4.
    It says it right there. He must be God. Who else could it be talking about?
    As well, at least three times Satan is referred to as “the ruler of the world.”

    If Jesus is the God of the Bible because he's specifically referred to as Mighty God and a god, then why couldn't we use the same reasoning to say that Satan is God?
    Or Israel's human judges?
    Or the angels?
    They're all referred to as gods as well, a couple of times.

    Oh, but that's right. Jehovah is specifically called God roughly 1000 times in the Scriptures.

    JOHN 8:54
    “Jesus answered: “If I glorify myself, my glory is nothing. It is my Father that glorifies me, he who YOU say is YOUR God;”
    (I've looked up a few other Bible translations and they all convey the same thought. I'm not sure why you mentioned this scripture. It tells us that they they considered Jesus' Father to be God.)

    Why did John write what he did?
    JOHN 20:31
    “But these have been written down that YOU may believe that Jesus is the Christ the Son of God, and that, because of believing, YOU may have life by means of his name.”

    dave

    #18949
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    Here Nick to prove that you regect the authority of the bible, its why your always hiding under the 'scripture! scripture” cloak! Rev 1:8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty. Here that? ALMIGHTY, THE LORD, THE ETERNAL! Isa 7:14 Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel…. Thats right! Immanual means;God is with us! You Nick are not just diluded but a blatant liar! When you steel Christs Divintiy and when you say you solely and only base your beliefs on scripture! Your beliefs are base on your cult! What is your cult called. There is no point to paste more scripture to prove Christ`s Divinty, because your reject one verse in the bible your reject all the bible[pardon me “scripture”] Cut the bullshit Nck!

    #18950
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    Nick your not a man of reason. I wish you were. Your a typical brained washed desicple of a cult. That your even ashamed to mention. I don`t blame you.

    #18951
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    Isa 41:4 Who hath wrought and done [it], calling the generations from the beginning? I the LORD, the first, and with the last; I [am] he.

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    Isa 44:6 Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I [am] the first, and I [am] the last; and beside me [there is] no God.

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    Rev 1:17 And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last:
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    Rev 1:18 I [am] he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.

    #18954
     NickHassan 
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    Quote (soxan @ Oct. 24 2005,21:41)
    Here Nick to prove that you regect the authority of the bible, its why your always hiding under the 'scripture! scripture” cloak! Rev 1:8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.  Here that? ALMIGHTY, THE LORD, THE ETERNAL! Isa 7:14 Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel…. Thats right! Immanual means;God is with us!  You Nick are not just diluded but a blatant liar! When you steel Christs Divintiy and when you say you solely and only base your beliefs on scripture! Your beliefs are base on your cult! What is your cult called. There is no point to paste more scripture to prove Christ`s Divinty, because your reject one verse in the bible your reject all the bible[pardon me “scripture”] Cut the bullshit Nck!


    Hi soxan,
    Did you not know that the Son of God was filled with the spirit of God himself and revealed the nature and power of God to the world? Truly in him God was and is with us.

    #18955
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    What i do know is that you reject sound reason and the Word of God. I also know that you reject common sence and plain logic. I know that your no scholar and that you formulate your doctrines on your cults teachings and not the Word of God!

    #18956
     NickHassan 
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    Quote (soxan @ Oct. 24 2005,21:59)
    Rev 1:17 And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last:
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    Rev 1:18 I [am] he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.


    Hi soxan,
    Amen. The Word was the firstborn and will be the last – we are in him and he is in God. He is the firstborn from the dead. He died and was raised to eternal life and we can follow him and be in that assembly, the assembly of the firstborn. God did not die.

    #18957
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    Nick when you reject Him you can`t follow Him. What your doing is not subtle. You willfully reject the Word of God. And to make matters worse you add your own words. No Truth no Light.

    #18958
     NickHassan 
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    Hi soxan,
    I show you what is written in scripture. Why does that upset you?

    #18959
     david 
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    Soxan, I've noticed that as soon as someone swears on this forum, everything they say after that is meaningless and can't really be taken seriously. If you are trying to help Nick see the light because of your love, where is the love Jesus spoke of?
    JOHN 13:35
    “By this all will know that YOU are my disciples, if YOU have love among yourselves.””

    #18960
     david 
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    Emmanuel???
    Does this mean that Jesus is the same as Jehovah?

    Matt. 1:23, RS: “‘Behold, a virgin shall conceive and bear a son, and his name shall be called Emman´u-el’ (which means, God with us [“God is with us,” NE]).”

    In announcing Jesus’ coming birth, did Jehovah’s angel say that the child would be God himself? No, the announcement was:

    “He will be great, and will be called the Son of the Most High.” (Luke 1:32, 35, RS; italics added.)

    And Jesus himself never claimed to be God but, rather, “the Son of God.” (John 10:36, RS; italics added.) Jesus was sent into the world by God; so by means of this only-begotten Son, God was with mankind.—John 3:17; 17:8.

    It was not unusual for Hebrew names to include within them the word for God or even an abbreviated form of God’s personal name. For example, Eli´athah means “God Has Come”; Jehu means “Jehovah Is He”; Elijah means “My God Is Jehovah.” But none of these names implied that the possessor was himself God.

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