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The Trinity Doctrine

Part 01The Trinity Doctrine
Part 02 – Who is the Most High God
Part 03 - Who and what is Jesus?
Part 04 – The true meaning of the word ‘God’
Part 05 - Supporting the Trinity Doctrine
Part 06 – Pre-Nicene writings
Part 07 – Development of the Trinity Doctrine
Part 08 – Why challenge the Trinity Doctrine
Part 09 – Trinity Doctrine conclusion
Part 10 – An Apostasy
Part 11 - 100 indisputable proof verses
Part 12 - What is your confession?
Part 13 - The Roman Catholic faith
Part 14 - Trinity Doctrine resources

The point of this study is to examine one of the most accepted doctrines in Christianity, namely the Trinity Doctrine. This study will test the doctrine with scripture to see if it is really taught in the bible.

Most Christians today believe that God is a Trinity and many agree that the Trinity Doctrine is not only a major doctrine of Christianity, but perhaps even the foundation of Christianity. This study will take an indepth look at verses that appear to contradict this doctrine and scriptures that are used to prove the doctrine. We will also look at some Pre-Nicene writings from the 2nd century to see if they also taught the Trinity before it was made an official doctrine. Then we will take a look at the history of the Trinity Doctrine and list important events that helped develop this doctrine.

This extensive writing will give you and in-depth look at this subject so that you can weigh up for yourself what is true. The aim is to help you in understanding the foundation of true faith in God and for you to be ready to give an answer at anytime as to what you believe.

According to scripture, the purpose of scripture is to guide, teach, and correct us on matters of doctrine and conduct. To be humble and teachable is to be wise and such a person would rejoice when both scripture affirms and corrects us because an affirmation shows that we already possess these truths and corrections gives us the opportunity to possess these truths. Both are good.

I think it is fair to say that that most Christians today who believe in the Trinity Doctrine have never really checked it out to see if what they believe is taught in scripture. Many assume that it must be correct because it is what most churches teach and this is perhaps the doctrine that most churches have in common. In addition to this doctrine’s wide acceptance, many people think it is wrong to question doctrines like this because it shows doubt. In truth however, we are suppose to test all teaching and spirits, so that we do not become deceived.

Acts 17:11
These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so.

Searching the scriptures to see if what we believe is true is absolutely encouraged in scripture and as Christians we should also be ready to provide a reason for the things that we believe. In order to know what we believe, it requires more than parroting a doctrine. You need to understand it in order to know whether it is true or not.

1 Peter 3:15
But in your hearts set apart Christ as Lord. Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give the reason for the hope that you have. But do this with gentleness and respect,

The reality is that many Christians who accept the doctrine of the Trinity, accepted it with little questioning and even to this day they do not understand it. It is often new believers who wonder how Jesus can be the son of God and also be that God that he is the son of. Often the response to such questioning is usually met with a reply along the lines of, ‘God is a mystery and beyond our thinking’. While this is true, scripture does reveal God to us with the intention that we understand these scriptures. Thus if the bible teaches that God is a Trinity, then by that reason, it is suppose to be understandable.

Of those who believe the Trinity Doctrine there appears to be differing ways to describe how God can be three and yet one. Some believe that God is a being that shows himself in 3 different ways like water can be ice, steam, or liquid. Others believe that the Trinity is made up of 3 distinct personalities and these 3 are in unity of substance and love and purpose. This last explanation is probably the most common and it is the accepted version of the Trinity Doctrine.

Diagram of the Trinity Doctrine

Ancient diagram of the Trinity

Before moving on, I think it would be good to give the official explanation of the Trinity Doctrine. The doctrine basically says that there is one God.
The Father is God, the Son is God, and the Holy Spirit is God.
Hence God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit.
These three persons make up one God. But rather than each being one-third of God, each person is co-equal and co-eternal and 100% God. The following diagram explains the Trinity Doctrine quite well.

This concludes the introduction to this study. Let’s now take an in-depth look at what scripture says about who and what God is. Click on the ‘Next Page’ button below to navigate your way through this teaching. Oh, and be prepared to be challenged.

2 Timothy 3:16
All Scripture is God­breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness…

26 Responses to "The Trinity Doctrine"

  1. Avatar of Wakeup Wakeup says:

    To all trinies.
    It is ridiculous to teach that your God died.
    God died for us on the cross you say; and everyone will go; Amen.

    We non trinies say NO. The Word made flesh died on the cross.
    The Lord of host resurrected Him;because he was not dead.
    If God resurrected Himself; then God was not dead.He is alive and well.

    God is not a deceiver of His children.
    When Jesus was dying ,HE said: Into they hands I commend my spirit.
    God was in heaven; not hanging on the cross.
    He also said: Father forgive them;for they do not know what they do.

    God would not be His own God,when Jesus said: your God and my God.
    It gets even worse; they say God went to hell.
    But wait; there is more; God appeared to men after his resurrection.
    Scripture says; no one can see God and live.
    After His resurrection Jesus said: I go to my Father.

    They use the case of the doubtful thomas as an example;that Jesus is God.
    Saying that thomas called Jesus God. How can Jesus appearing to thomas be also God,does God himself has to go to His Father which is in heaven? Was God not in that room with the apostles;as you say,He is?

    No thomas said: my Lord and my God. My Lord=Jesus and his God,and our God. Many more scriptures can be against the trinies.But the doctrine has set as concrete. We need a slash hammer to break it.

    wakeup.

    1. Avatar of Lightenup Lightenup says:

      @Wakeup,
      Let me just say that trinies do not say that God died. You do not understand the trinity if you believe this. Jesus’ flesh died but He didn’t. The trinies do not believe the Son is the Father, either.

      Just trying to help you, my friend.

    2. Avatar of t8 t8 says:

      But your doctrine implies it. If Jesus is God and Jesus died, then God died. You have to accept that as part of your doctrinal package. And you need to come up with another theory to explain it. Perhaps 50% God and 50% man and the 50% man died. But then you have to also explain the resurrection. Did the 50% man rise from the dead? Lies always create a mess and needs lots of work to try and keep it intact. The truth is way easier, simple, and often self-evident.

  2. Avatar of mikeboll64 mikeboll64 says:

    Hi Kathi,

    I started a thread in the forum part of the site called “Does God Almighty Rule From The Throne Of David?”

    Please check it out and give me your comments.

    1. Avatar of Lightenup Lightenup says:

      Matt 28:18
      And Jesus came up and spoke to them, saying, “All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth.

      That should help answer your question. Thanks Mike for the invite. I’m trying not to get too spread out.

    2. Avatar of t8 t8 says:

      What, someone gave God all authority? So one part of God gave the other all authority. This is silly. I don’t see anyone taking your teaching seriously. But by all means, carry on with the free entertainment.

    3. Avatar of mikeboll64 mikeboll64 says:

      Okay then, Kathi. :)

      I’ll give you the gist of it:

      Isaiah 9:7
      He will reign on David’s throne and over his kingdom… from that time on and forever.

      Luke 1:32-33
      The Lord God will give him the throne of his father David, and he will reign over Jacob’s descendants forever…….

      So unless God Almighty will rule forever from the throne of God’s servant David, Jesus isn’t God Almighty………. because Jesus WILL rule forever from the throne of God’s servant David.

  3. Avatar of Lightenup Lightenup says:

    Hi Rebecca,
    Welcome to Heavennet! Aside from the trinity doctrine, do you understand that Peter in 1 Peter 2, identifies Jesus as the Jehovah of hosts of Isaiah 8:13

    Isaiah 8
    11For Jehovah spake thus to me with a strong hand, and instructed me not to walk in the way of this people, saying,

    12Say ye not, A conspiracy, concerning all whereof this people shall say, A conspiracy; neither fear ye their fear, nor be in dread thereof .

    13Jehovah of hosts, him shall ye sanctify; and let him be your fear, and let him be your dread.

    14And he shall be for a sanctuary; but for a stone of stumbling and for a rock of offence to both the houses of Israel, for a gin and for a snare to the inhabitants of Jerusalem.

    15And many shall stumble thereon, and fall, and be broken, and be snared, and be taken.

    I hope that helps! :)

    1. Avatar of t8 t8 says:

      God sent his son into the world to do his will. Thus whatever is said of God can be said of his messenger.

      We are told that God is light. We are told that Yeshua is the light of the world. We are also told that we are the light of the world. None of this means that we are God or Jesus is God, just the same as 1 Peter and Isaiah 8 doesn’t say that Jesus is God. In fact the thing that should stand out here is that Yeshua is the one whom YHWH sent, a belief that is part of eternal life. For certainly Jesus did the will of God. Even when he asked for the cup to be removed, he still did God’s will despite his own will.

      It only proves that when we do things in the name of someone, that we too get am obvious and similar descriptive. How many times is the Church described in terms similar to Jesus Christ. Quite a lot.

      Jesus said that the only true God was his Father and that this only true God is our God and he sent Yeshua to us. And to know both God and Yeshua is eternal life. If you think they are the same God, then how is it that you can claim to know him. Instead you claim to know them. But God is a him. He is the Father. Even the Father of the Lord Jesus Christ.

    2. Avatar of Wakeup Wakeup says:

      Lightenup.

      Where does it say that Jesus is Jehovah?

      Isaiah 8:13 Sanctify the LORD of hosts himself; and let him be your fear, and let him be your dread.

      Jesus said; your God and my God.
      Never said; I am the Father; or I was the Father.
      If He was;then God was dead.
      If He was not; then God did not truly die.
      Then that was all just pretence.(holywood).
      If God truly died; The universe would have gone out of course,for all things are framed by the Word of God.
      How ever one twists and turns the Word of God:In the end he/she will be found trapped.

      The only way out is become a deceiver; by rephrasing scriptures, or take away whole verses.(what happened to conscience)?
      Jesus is not God, but the WORD of God made flesh.
      God’s speech made flesh.God gave *HIS SON*: *NOT HIMSELF*.

      wakeup.

    3. Avatar of t8 t8 says:

      People who believe that Jesus is God, believe that God died. You are right, who was looking after things when God died? The folly of the Trinity, Binity, or Jesus is God is self-evident. It shouldn’t even be a point of discussion, but some how folly followed folly and now probably over a billion people believe in the Trinity. It is one of the great deceptions of the world.

    4. Avatar of Lightenup Lightenup says:

      @t8,
      The Son is also named Jehovah and that is what you miss, it seems. He represents Himself as He represents His Father. There is no disagreement. They can have the same name because they have the same character, an eternal God character. They are of the same mind. Notice the use of plural pronouns that I use. You would see them in the Bible if you knew Greek, btw.

      Just trying to help you, my friend.

    5. Avatar of Lightenup Lightenup says:

      @Wakeup
      Peter identifies Jesus to be the stumbling stone which Isaiah writes about and that stone is called Jehovah (LORD) of hosts by Jehovah. There are two who are named Jehovah. One is the Father and the other is the Son.

      Hope that helps!

    6. Avatar of t8 t8 says:

      God is light. Jesus is the light of the world. We are the light of the world. Hello, we are all God or gods right? Well taking your thinking process then yes. But obviously a faulty way of thinking.

      What is said of God is very often said of Jesus. Why is that? Because he is like God. So like God that he is the image of God. And because he does God’s will, then what YHWH decides to subject himself to will be done through his son. e.g., God saves, Jesus Saves, even Moses saved.

      Once you sign up to a man-made doctrine, then all contrary common sense and self-evidence goes out the window. But you are not alone. Billions are deceived in a similar way and those not caught up in their particular lie can easily see the deception. It is how people end up in cults.

      If you do not look at the full counsel of scripture, then you will take what you can and twist it, and ignore all contrary evidence. An extreme example would be an Atheist saying that the Bible says “there is no God”. It says that of course, but he could conveniently miss out the part about him being a fool.

  4. Rebecca says:

    Can’t thank you enough for writing on this topic, with scripture to back it up. I grew up believing in a single God and Jesus Christ – and it was in my 20s when my brother-in-law came over spouting Trinity Doctrine that I got confused – and every so often a Trinity believer will try to convince me otherwise – now I know what to say (better) to counter them. It shouldn’t *be* confusing, imo. Jesus is straight forward. Even in parables. (imo)
    Will refer this site and topic. Thanks again!

    /E

    1. Avatar of t8 t8 says:

      Thanks for your comment Rebecca. It is nice to get encouragement from time to time. :)

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