The written word of God verses the scribes

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  • #787117
    Wakeup
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    The written Word of God verses the word of the scribes.
    Many have believed the scribes words rather than God’s word.
    Why would they read the bible? Why not just use the words of the scribes too seek God?
    Why use the bible, and cherry pick the word of God, to support the word of the scribes?

    By using the words of the scribes, one can never see the true picture, of the kingdom of God.
    The kingdom of God is within you; and for each to discover it. For each to seek, And find the kingdom of God.
    We need to seek the kingdom of God, by seeking the scriptures.

    Matthew 6:33 But SEEK ye FIRST the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you. Matthew 7:7 Ask, and it shall be given you; SEEK, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you:
    Matthew 7:8 For every one that asketh, receiveth; and he that SEEKETH findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened.
    Matthew 12:39 But he answered and said unto them, An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given to it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas:
    Knock on the wrong door, and you will get tribulations.

    Signs And miracles can be copied by the enemy. The truth can Not.
    Seek the Word of God; NOT the word of the scribes. And it shall be given unto you.
    The scribes are of the world, and they are there to contradict the Word of God.
    Matthew 6:24 No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.

    Serve one of them, not both.

    wakeup.

    #787349
    NickHassan
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    Hi WU,

    Yes the kingdom should be within you.

    But you cannot even see the kingdom till you have been reborn from above.

    #787355
    Wakeup
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    If you truly can see kingdom of God; why not reveal it to your brothers and sisters.?
    You need to proof to us that you truly can see the kingdom of God.
    Don’t hide your penny in the sand. Proof is what we want; proof, proof.

    wakeup.

    #788493
    NickHassan
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    Hi WU,

    You want others to show you truth?

    Surely you can seek??

    #789024
    AndrewAD
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    The kingdom is within us,that is the thoughts we have inside ourselves about God.

    A scribe was primitively one who could read and write and gave himself for hire to those who could not.

    A scribe also later became one who wrote and interpreted the law and those priests and prophets who wrote what we call the bible were scribes.They all had their own ideas about God and what his thoughts might be in their individual times and personal situations.

    It’s really not different with us.We all have different ideas about God or what God means to us,and how we interpret others ideas of God and what God might require of us.

    The fact that any of us dare to be on this forum and share our opinions of God and what his law might be makes us all scribes.And we can all learn from each other even if we don’t agree on some things.

    The Jewish scribes didn’t all agree and certainly Christian scribes don’t either.
    Matthew 13:52 Then said he unto them, Therefore every scribe which is instructed unto the kingdom of heaven is like unto a man that is an householder, which bringeth forth out of his treasure things new and old.

    #789817
    NickHassan
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    Hi Andrew,

    The kingdom is the THOUGHTS we have?

    Is this of scripture or of man??

     

    Are you not led by the Spirit?

    The sons of God are led by the Spirit of God.

    #790236
    AndrewAD
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    Hi Nick,The sons of God are led by the spirit of God? then they have spiritual thoughts no less.And the kingdom of God is not  meat nor drink but is righteousness,peace and joy in the Holy Ghost.And this we can have now;would you agree? Whatever things are true,honest,just,pure,lovely,think on these things.

    Do you seek first the kingdom of God and his righteousness? that is his rule in your life now? or do you seek to rule with a rod of iron in a fleshly 1000 year kingdom?

    The kingdom of God is within and among us by Christ;that is the spiritual kingdom which is everlasting according to 2Pet1:11 and we according to his promise look for a new heaven and earth 2Pet3:13

    And we are in that spiritual phase of the eternal kingdom.

    #790238
    Proclaimer
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    Amen. Joy in the Holy Spirit. Easy to forget that when dealing with Pharisees who are loaded up on self-righteousness and have not joy, only accusations and bitter feuding.

    #790240
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Andrew,

    Yes all can have their own opinions of what the message means.

    #790271
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    AndrewAD……….Well put brother. Indeed the KINGDOM OF GOD comes without observation it is within you. That intellect OR SPIRITUAL THOUGHTS comes from GOD, MANY FOCUSE ON THE PHYSICAL KINGDOM AND DO NOT SEE THE SPRITUAL KINGDOM. Blessed is the man who has the spirit of GOD ABIDING IN HIM.

    peace and love to you and yours. …………….gene

    #790749
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi GB,

    More on your false INTELLECT theory?

    It is opposed to spiritual matters.

    #790765
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    Nick……We all realize you refuse to believe in the intellects of GOD BEING GIVEN US, WHICH IS THE “MIND” OF GOD BEING ADMINISTERED TO US BY HIS SPIRIT, WHICH IS THE “RENEWING” OF OUR MIND (THINKING) WHICH does effect our intellects. YOU MUST NOT REALIZE SCRIPTURE PLAINLY SAYS “LET THIS “MIND” BE IN YOU WHICH WAS IN CHRIST JESUS OUR lord. You seem to want to believe that this renewing has nothing to do with renewing our intellcts, which is the way we think, given us by GOD”S SPIRIT. So you go about attacking all who do see it that way like ANDREW, AND T8, and all others here. The kingdom of GOD IS ALL ABOUT THE WAY WE THINK, ALL SPIRITS EFFECT OUR MINDS AND THEREFORE OUR INTELLEGENCE. EVERYONE who is of the truth knows THIS.

    YOU CONTINUALLY ACCUSE ME AND OTHERS, WHO SAY SPIRITS effect OUR THINKING, BUT GIVE US NO EXPLINATION OF WHAT SPIRIT MEANS TO YOU. IS YOUR “ACCUSITORY” SPIRIT OF GOD, OR JUST YOUR TRASH MOUTH COMMING FROM YOUR OWN TRUE NATURE?

    peace and love to you and yours. …………….gene

    #790772
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi GB,

    Why should we accept any of your own false teachings?

    We have scripture.

    #790800
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    Nick…..IF it is false prove it then, and you or anyone else should not accept any of what i say, if it is not true, but “YOU” saying what i have said is not true means nothing, comming from you that is for sure, and this is what is comming from a person who believe the seven spirits of GOD ARE SEVEN ANGLES, WHO BELIEVES ANGELS THEMSELVES ARE SPIRIT BEING, WHO BELIEVES OUR GOD GIVEN BODIES ARE WORTHLESS, EVEN THOUGH GOD THE FATHER SEEMS TO THINK THEIR NEEDED. AND WERE IMPORTANT, OR WHY WOULD HE EVER MAKE THEM IN THE FIRST PLACE, instead of fomming off at the mouth WITH STUPID AND IRROGANT WORDS, show us where GOD’S SPIRIT IS NOT GOD’S INTELLEGENCE THAT IS GIVEN US. , WE ALSO HAVE SCRIPTURES THAT DO PROVE THAT, WHAT DOES THIS MEAN TO YOU, “Let this “MIND” BE IN YOU THAT WAS “IN” CHRIST JESUS our lord”. Here is another one you can destort to meet you dogmas,

    2 TI 2:7…..”CONSIDER what I say; and the LORD give you understanding ( soon’-es-is a mental putting together, that is, intelligence or (concretelyl the “intellect”; – knowledge, understanding) in “all” things.

    O that right we are not talking about an intellect are we? You are just a big selfrightious mouth here with a ACCUSETORY SPIRIT SPUING OUT YOUR GARBAGE, THAT YOU HAVEN A CLUE ABOUT, YOU DO NOT EDIFY THE BODY OF CHRIST, BUT ARE JUST AN ACCUSER OF THE BRETHERN , JUST LIKE THE YOUR TRUE FATHER IS.

    So to you the mind of Christ does not contain intellegence the SPIRIT OF GOD DOES NOT TRANSMIT TO US ANY INTELLECT . SEEMS SCRIPTURE DISAGREES WITH YOU, SO WHAT IS A SPIRIT TO YOU? OR DO YOU Even HAVE ANY IDEA WHAT A SPIRIT is or what it does? YOUR MOUTH IS FULL OF TRASH TALK COMMING FROM A ACCUSITORY SPIRIT ABIDING IN YOU WHICH YOU ARE BEING LED BY TO DESTORY THOSE SEEKING THE TRUTH FROM OUR SCRIPTURES. BUT YOU SHALL REAP WHAT YOU SOW, EVEN AS YOU ARE NOW RECIEVING IT. IMO

    #790808
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi GB,

    Is this from a pure source or is it that you cannot see error?

    #790950
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    Nick…..NO I CAN’T SEE THE ERROR SO SHOW ME OK, Read it for yourself, better, check it out for a change, and you can easely see if it is from me or the exact meaning of the word “understanding” From a “pure source”.

    TELL US NICK IS WHAT YOU SAY FROM A PURE SOURCE OR IS IT “YOU” CANNOT SEE ERROR?

    #790951
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    Nick…..NO I CAN’T SEE THE ERROR SO SHOW ME OK, Read it for yourself, better, check it out for a change, and you can easely see if it is from me or the exact meaning of the word “understanding” From a “pure source”.

    TELL US NICK IS WHAT YOU SAY FROM A PURE SOURCE OR IS IT “YOU” CANNOT SEE ERROR YOURSELF?

    peace and love to you and yours. ………………gene

    #791900
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi GB,

    Show us where your favourite word INTELLECT is in scripture and we can discourse

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